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- these teams met in Santander a year ago with Spain coming away with 1-0 win after 79' goal from Xavi. Spain were much better than USA, especially in 2h, and hit the bar twice before the winning goal finally came. That was a pretty different USA team with only 4-5 players of the 16 that played, expected to see the field Wednesday. The USA are visibly intimidated when the play teams like Brazil, Argentina, Spain, and England but actually look comfortable playing Italy probably because of their previous WC result. Anyway, I expect Bradley to invoke the defense-first system that they attempted against Brazil and you'll see a similar result. This makeshift USA defense simply cannot hold up against Torres and Villa especially with Xavi and Fabregas running at them. The US loses their positioning when they sit back and defend and it'll happen today as well. This is a step up in competition for Spain after playing in that very weak group, but I'm sure they'll pass the test with a pretty straight forward 2 goal win. You'll probably know within 5' what attitude the US has taken for the match, or maybe it won't even take that long. If you see Davies and Altidore both starting in attack, perhaps the US will actually play a bit today but if Altidore is set as lone attacker in 4-5-1 this game is all but lost. If they run through the midfield and play balls to wide midfielders, perhaps they have a chance, but only if they play in 4-4-2. Unfortunately I expect they'll take a defensive approach and let Spain possess the ball, just trying to hit back on counters, and you'll see the horrible defense and midfield lunging at Spain attackers to produce a wealth of yellow cards. While this defensive approach is not at all their style yet it's the style they play against superior teams. Over the past year they've played some of the best teams in the world (Italy, Brazil, Argentina, Spain, and England) yet scored a grand total of 1 goal in those matches...Donovan's penalty against Italy last week. While normally there is no value in playing against the USA as a massive underdog this is much more of a David vs Goliath matchup than world rankings suggest. Man for man Spain is superior and while they've coasted into the semifinals, the US pulled off a miracle. That little fairy tale ends today when my team gets laughed off the pitch in a 2-0 or 3-0 loss.
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totally agree. USA have no chance of scoring, check out the US u.5 line i think -140 is a good line for that play
 

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USA has stuck with the two up front with Dempsey and Donovan on the flanks. imo this game could be interesting, I think the US can score.
 

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Someone care to explain why the line i see is

Over 1,1½ +138

So is it over 1 or is it over 1 1/2 :think2:
 

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both, half you're money goes on 1 and the other half on 1.5.
 

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When i tried the live help they acted like i was seeing things. Seems like a dumb bet to split them.
 

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- these teams met in Santander a year ago with Spain coming away with 1-0 win after 79' goal from Xavi. Spain were much better than USA, especially in 2h, and hit the bar twice before the winning goal finally came. That was a pretty different USA team with only 4-5 players of the 16 that played, expected to see the field Wednesday. The USA are visibly intimidated when the play teams like Brazil, Argentina, Spain, and England but actually look comfortable playing Italy probably because of their previous WC result.
Don't ever compare Spain with Argentina or Brazil. Argentina and Brazil are a lot more athletic and better skilled overall.
 

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great job for the US! Donovan, Gooch, and Howard with best matches of their careers

linesman today were horrible for both teams. I counted 6 incorrect offside calls

well, now go win this tourney US since you took my $
 

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Don't ever compare Spain with Argentina or Brazil. Argentina and Brazil are a lot more athletic and better skilled overall.

not this generation of Spanish player and team

they are right on par with Brazil and Argentina
 

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not this generation of Spanish player and team

they are right on par with Brazil and Argentina
LMAO.......... Spain has never won a world cup(Best finish is 4th in 1950. Argentina has won the World Cup two times and Brazil leads the world with 5.) Spain doesn't have players on their team, that are considered the best players in the world, at their positions(Maybe Pujol and he plays on the back four on defense). Name me a player on Spain's national soccer team that has the talent and athletic abilities of these players For Argentina: Messi, Riquelme, Carloz Tevez, Aguero, and for Brazil: Robinho, Kaka, and Ronaldinho.
 

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hey guy no offense but I know my soccer well

So im well aware of the past, maybe you cant read?

I said this generation of Spanish team, and thus players are just as athletic

entiende juevon?
 

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LMAO.......... Spain has never won a world cup(Best finish is 4th in 1950. Argentina has won the World Cup two times and Brazil leads the world with 5.) Spain doesn't have players on their team, that are considered the best players in the world, at their positions(Maybe Pujol and he plays on the back four on defense). Name me a player on Spain's national soccer team that has the talent and athletic abilities of these players For Argentina: Messi, Riquelme, Carloz Tevez, Aguero, and for Brazil: Robinho, Kaka, and Ronaldinho.
LMFAO. Puyol might be the dodgiest player on spain's side.

their the #1 side in the world for a reason. they have the best goalie, striker, and midfield (w/ iniesta) in the world. you mention the prowess of argentina, who have recently lost at BOLIVIA 6-1 and just lost to ecuador 2-0. riquelme doesn't play for the national team anymore either. spain would carve them up easily.

kaka, messi, and CR7 are in a class of their own. robinho is inconsistent and ronaldinho sucks balls.
 

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LMFAO. Puyol might be the dodgiest player on spain's side.

their the #1 side in the world for a reason. they have the best goalie, striker, and midfield (w/ iniesta) in the world. you mention the prowess of argentina, who have recently lost at BOLIVIA 6-1 and just lost to ecuador 2-0. riquelme doesn't play for the national team anymore either. spain would carve them up easily.

kaka, messi, and CR7 are in a class of their own. robinho is inconsistent and ronaldinho sucks balls.
Their the number one side based on a point system. If they ever play Brazil or Argentina with this squad I will gladly take a bet with either you or Romanowski.

Are you joking calling their midfield the best in the world? One of the dumbest quotes I've ever heard. You must be listening to the ESPN announcers to much.
 

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hey guy no offense but I know my soccer well

So im well aware of the past, maybe you cant read?

I said this generation of Spanish team, and thus players are just as athletic

entiende juevon?
Wow, is all I can say to this.
 

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Their the number one side based on a point system. If they ever play Brazil or Argentina with this squad I will gladly take a bet with either you or Romanowski.

Are you joking calling their midfield the best in the world? One of the dumbest quotes I've ever heard. You must be listening to the ESPN announcers to much.

Taken each player as an individual maybe not, but as a whole, their midfield is the best in the world. There are 4 number 10 in the field.

Btw, why do you think that tiqui-taka is considered to be the best/most modern "game style" ?
 

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I dont think youre all that bright champ

I said Spain is on par with Arg and Braz, not better; you said Spain cant be in same discussion at all (retarded)

sure Spain is known for underachieving, but this generation is different and they won EuroCup to prove it

IMO this WC is for a Euro team to take, a 'neutral' site ala Japan, Euro's turn and Spain is playing the best

We can only hope for a dream match up with ESP vs ARG or ESP vs BRS in WC play not a friendly

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